2012年4月21日星期六

@ Monday

You are not welcome here -_-


Good morning friends.
well played sir

Mana Gems could use some reworking.

Exactly what the title says. Specifiaclly the amount of charges and cooldown. For arcane, AP is on 1.5 min cooldown with talents...why doesn't Improved Mana Gem affect the CD to match this? As with the damage increase from the talents it makes the most sense to use them in conjunction. IMO 5 charges of Mana Gem static and have Imp Mana Gem also reduce CD to 1.5 min.
you still have to wait till evocation has around 30 seconds left anyways so it wouldn't make a difference.
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Fire mage trinkets

So at the moment I'm using Necromantic Focus and Rune of Zeth but in the upcoming week Bottled Wishes will become available and i was wondering if it would be worth it to switch out one of the two trinkets i currently have for it. I'm not at 2005 haste yet which is why I'm wondering if it will be worth it.

Thanks for the help.
The VP trinket pulls a head by only 80 or so DPS over both of the trinkets your using according to a sim I used. Buying the Cape and wand should be your first VP purchases, unless you get the Zon'ozz wand this lockout.

It's a decent trinket but It's lack of pure intellect as a static stat makes it weaker than other VP pieces. As far as the 2005 soft-haste plateau there's a few reforges or other pieces of gear you can pick up that will bring you to it. The well of eternity ring being one them.

VPLC is still pretty strong compared to what's available in DS, if you can get your guild to put a 10 man FL together.
Why would you buy the wand, when the Boots, Neck, Ring, wrists are all a better dps upgrade
Insignia of the Corrupted Mind
For all of your haste desires.
Necromantic Focus is really not a great Fire trinket, so i m sure that would be a significant upgrade over it.

Frost PvP questions

Ok me and my buddy were brainstorming and yes ik this is like 1 research time away but im lazy atm and was wondering... mastery,haste,or crit. stat priorities im confused. they all same decent
Well a little more research time would find you this ;)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3789699751
:P ty
I don't know the length of 1 research time. The OP response providing the link only tells us that the response was during the same day of the OP. That's also all that I know about the OP's response of gratitude for the link formally expressed :P ty. Hence, I will never know if it was worth it for the OP to ask this here. This ruined my day.

Another, What's better thread!

Dragonfire Orb+ Rathrak, the Poisonous Mind OR Lightning Rod as a FIRE mage.

I'm not really sure because i'm going to have to reforge alot of my gear if i roll with dagger+offhand. with the staff (and when i'm in pve gear) I'm at exactly 17% hit (Amazing i know right)
Lightning Rod, unless its a heavy AOE fight.
Rathrak and dragonfire are better, even on single target fights.
Thankyou hiroran, and thanks for copying my trans >:(

MageManaBar 1.72: More than Mana Management

Hello everyone. I am copy-pasting the text below the break on behalf of Angayelle, the mod author of MageManaBar and CombustionHelper. He is unable to post on these USA forums.

Angayelle will still be reading this thread, however, so if you have comments, questions or feedback... feel free to mention it all here and i'll copy/paste any responses he has for you.

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This is the new thread for version 1.72 release of MageManaBar. As always, have fun and report to me any bugs and requests.

For more skins and settings, have a look at:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1003973-MageManaBar-1.7-Mana-management-but-not-only

So let me present again this wonderful addon of mine to people who haven't heard about it yet.

This is aimed to be the ultimate Mana Bar for Mages. Arcane Mages specifically will find many of MageManaBar's features invaluable in helping to manage Mana optimally and refine their gameplay. About the gameplay suggestions present in MageManaBar, let me say again that they are totally optional, if you don't like it, just remove it. And if you feel it's making Arcane too much easy to play and allow what you call noobs to top the meters as they shouldn't be able to, i'm sorry but this is the goal of this addon : help mages getting the best of what they can do.

But there is nice things for skilled players too with unique features never seen before (by me at least...) like Mana overflow report, mage armor tick cooldown, spell cost indication and so on.

Anyway, have a look and as always send me feedback and suggestions here or on curse : http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/magemanabar.aspx

• It will always show your real Mana Pool by ignoring temporary Int Buffs which distort your Mana % on standard Unitframes (Eg: Darkmoon Card: Volcano, Power Torrent, Synapse Springs etc).
• Marker at 35% Mana to show where Evocation can be used without wasting Mana (Factors in ~2 ticks of Mage Armor whilst channeling).
• Marker at (Max Mana - 12 405) to show where Mana Gem can be used without wasting any Mana.
• Marker for "Next Mage Armor Tick". (Showing how much Mana the next tick of Mage Armor will give). Featuring autohide when not present in fire/frost spec. NEW !
• Marker for Flame Orb mini burn. (Showing how much mana you should regen through AM spam).
• Marker for Arcane Torrent.
• Timers for Evocation, Mana Gem, Flame Orb, Arcane Torrent and Mage Armor (Ticks).
• Show your expected current cast mana usage in realtime on the mana bar.
• Optional and fully customizable health bar.
• Color settings to change the color of the mana bar based on markers crossed.
Information panels that you can unlock and place wherever you want on the bar or the screen, change size and background. This should allow you to make the Mana bar the way you want it. Also featuring a tag list to choose whatever info you want in the style you want (Absolute Cur/Max HP, Cur/Percent mana, Absolute Cur/Max mana, Mastery, Spellpower, Time To Die and many more !!).
• Realtime information of mana overflow and lost mana due to end of intellect procs. You will know each time how much mana is wasted in chat report with a summary at the end of the fight to help you refine your gameplay.
• Optional advanced gameplay suggestions during fight based on your cooldowns and tested theorycrafted concepts to help you mastering Arcane way of managing mana. You can also enable or disable any of theses suggestions if it doesn't fit your way of playing.
• Advanced customisation options for all elements of the addon. You can change colors, textures, fonts, size, alpha, ordering of elements. Everything is optional and can be disabled to make MageManaBar what you always dreamed of.
• Arcane explosion manager. Once you use AE with an AB buff the warning panel will show your AE casts on a timer representing your AB Debuff, also showing the current cast time needed to refresh it. Cross the red section and you'll be unable to refresh in time ! NEW!
• Getting closer to UnitFrame replacement with the player menu when right clicking on frame and player selection when left clicking, casting bar and alternate power bar. NEW !
• Import Export manager for settings. You can share your settings with fellow mages and import new ones. Have a look at the post below to get some new settings. NEW !


Right now, version 1.72 release is vailable at : http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/magemanabar in the other download section, have a look and report me.

USE THE RESET BUTTON IN INTERFACE /OPTIONS WHEN UPGRADING FROM BETA TO RELEASE VERSION OR IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM
I'm trying to get this addon, but there seems to be a prob with curse, browser keeps closing. Another thing I noticed is curse only seems to have vers 1.6.2
You need to go to the Other downloads section to download the v1.7 because it is still in beta.
ok, just found it in other downloads, managed to download it, but curse page still seems to sometimes close my browser when I copy/paste
"http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/magemanabar"

looking forward to trying it out :)
Love the new arcane explosion manager thing. Thanks for all the work on this addon.
hi
Updated OP with 1.72 release.
I really like the AE tracking, it's a great mod, I had my doubts at first, but it really is a great little piece of tracking software. The refinements make it useful for mages who never had an issue tracking mana.

Clicker to button pusher mage

Hi everyone, I am trying to convert myself from a clicker to a button pusher as a Frost mage. In my 5 years playing this game I have gotten by using w,a,s,d to move and clicking everything. In my time playing I have always heard that clickers are at a disadvantage as far as reaction time and getting spells off efficiently. I really enjoy playing this class and wanted to know how some of you configure your spells...this is for PvP or PvE, doesnt really matter.

For me I have as follows:

1 - Frostbolt
2 - Ice Lance
3 - Deep Freeze
4 - Cone of Cold
5 - Frostfirebolt
R- Frost Nova
Mouse wheel when clicked - Blink

All of the rest I click (ice block, barrier spells, etc.). At this point I'm still getting used to this whole button thing and moving my character with the mouse and I guess I should change "a" and "d" to my strafe buttons? Any extra help would be great!

That's a good start.
There's plenty of options for keybindings.
I personally put my main spells on 1 - 5, then use the following for other things.

R, C, X, ~ (next to 1), Caps, Z, F,
Shift 1, Shift 2, Shift 3, Shift 4, Shift 5, Shift R, Shift F.

I use R for counterspell, shift R for spellsteal,
things like that.

I keep all my spells that I use often well within reach.
I also keep other spells between 6 through = that I use now and then.

Though not needed, I would recommend a Razor Naga.
It can be hard to get use to, but once you can use every button on it without thinking about it,
there is no better tool.

Good luck!
Hope this helped a little :)



1 - Frostfire Bolt
2 - Frostbolt
3 - Ice Lance
4 - Deep Freeze
5 - Pet Freeze
6 - Blizzard
7 - Cone of Cold
8 - Cold Snap
9 - Ice Barrier

1 - Presence of Mind
2 - Arcane Blast
3 - Arcane Missles
4 - Arcane Barrage
5 - Arcane Explosion
6 - Don't remember...
7 - Evocation

1 - Living Bomb
2 - Pyroblast
3 - Fireball
4 - Fireblast
5 - Blast Wave
6 - Flamestrike
7 - Dragon's Breath

- is Frost Nova, = is Blink, but Blink is also bound to Mouse Button 5. And Frost Nova and Blink are in the same space, every spec.
`~ <- tilde key is Counterspell. Shift Mouse Button 4 is Ice Block, Shift Mouse Button 5 is Invis.
I think that's it. These are at least mostly correct. xD

Edit: Really should start using preview... >__>
Razor naga mouse to help you convert.90$ but well worth the investment.
I second the suggestion to get a Naga mouse. Those extra 12 buttons on your thumb are a great asset.

You probably want to be sure that "cast on keydown" is turned on so that the benefits of faster reaction time you are getting from using keybinds instead of clicking translates fully to the game.

Another tool you can use to help train yourself to use the keybinds is to simply hide your actionbars after you setup the keybinds. You can't click something if you cant see it. For things that you need to see cooldowns for, you can use a cooldown monitor (like Sexy Cooldown Bar) or power auras / weak auras.
^agreed. naga is very nice, and there are 2 different versions now I think. They're both the same, except one is wireless, or it is an option to be wireless.


Thanks for the tips guys! I have never heard of the Naga mouse, but ill look into that and if it doesnt break the bank I'd be game to try it out.
Any extra mouse buttons are helpful. I don't have a Naga, but it's nice to have interrupts, Polymorph, etc. on a mouse click.
You don't need a naga to use key bindings at all, use normal keys 1-7 , Shift 1-7, alt 1-4 and then RTY/FGH/CVB
Don't forget ` and zxcv.

Also, it's helpful to keep like abilities similar across characters.

My interupt is r on nearly all my toons.
CC is c.
Mouse over focus is Z.
DPS CD is v.
You get the idea....

Another helpful thing is to use a shift modifier for your focus macros.

So shift r is focus interrupt.
Shift c is focus CC.
Etc.

LF Frost themed staff for Mogging.

Since I am a frost mage, I would like to reflect this with my gear when 4.3 hits. Obviously, the best staff for this would be the Frost Lord scythe, but I didn't get it this summer, so I don't have access to it for now. Anyone have any other ideas? I'm thinking maybe the one that drops off Archimonde or the one from Hodir.

For reference, my gear is going to be:
Glacial Robe
Glacial Waistband
Glacial Slippers
Firelord's Mantle
Firelord's Hood
Deathchill Cloak
http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=43583:43585:43584:60246:60243:40489
Click on the dropdown menu to view in 3D.

Greatstaff of the Nexus?
It is a very nice looking staff for Blue/Frost themed sets.
The scythe staff thing from the boss from the fire festival?

If you don't have it obv. wouldn't help you for next patch, but that's my best bet.
Ethereum Life-Staff from High Astromancer Solarian in Tempest Keep
Ethereum Life-Staff from High Astromancer Solarian in Tempest Keep


that's what i thought the moment i saw the topic
Frostscythe of Lord Ahune

Done.
Ethereum Life-Staff from High Astromancer Solarian in Tempest Keep


that's what i thought the moment i saw the topic


Same.
Frostscythe of Lord Ahune

Done.


Yeah, I'd love to have that staff, but like I said, I didn't get it this summer so I don't have access to it arm. :-)

Hadn't thought of the Greatstaff though, thanks to those that recommended it! I'll try for the Life-Staff as well.
Grand Magister's Staff of Torrents isn't a bad one either.

Mage PVP

What spec is the best for my level for pvp?
Any spec really. You're going to get rocked until you can get ice barrier.

low level pvp sucks.
I remember having to deal with arcane mages back then was infuriating. Arcane barrage is insanely powerful and cheesy.
Wait until 49. Go fire.

Let lulz ensue.

Best action bars for mages?

Not sure if this one belongs in the UI section (IMO it belongs here because we mages tend to use a lot of skills and shift more), but what do you think is the best action bar addon that we mages can get?
Bartender or Dominos. Try both see what you like better. But yea the question is not specific to mages.
I like Bartender personally. It's pretty nice.
Most of your stuff should be key-bound so as long as the addon works and lets you customize the action bars, who cares.... I've just always used Bartender, and it's built into Lui interface which I am currently using out of laziness.
Used Bartender4 for a while. After one patch it didn't get updated for a week and there were bugs, so I switched to Dominos. Hardly noticed any difference.
I'd use whichever updates faster after major patches.

Help identifying headgear

i remember as i was levelling this mage, i equipped this headgear which was sort of a halo of jewels circling on top of my head. but i can't for the life of me remember what it's called..please post if you do know as i would like to transmog that piece
Circle of Flame? (Check the wowhead screenshots)
Are you looking for Tourmaline Crown? I'm currently using that as my transmog head piece and it sounds like what you're looking for.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=31272

BoE
http://www.wowhead.com/item=31272

BoE


Also quite rare - the Tourmaline Crown looks identical and is from a quest line in BC so costs nothing and is easily solo'd.
the piece i had was the crown of endless knowledge. but its the same design as the tourmaline crown so im gonna go do that quest for it.

thanks very much to you all.

by the way, since im trying to look for gear to transmog, i might as well ask about other slots. i remember when i was around level 60 or 70, my gear was such that i didnt look like a mage, more like a fashionista. i remember the chestgear was like a blue long sleeve shirt which wasn't a robe and that's important cause it doesn't drop down to my ankles and cover my trousers.

so if anyone has any suggestions on chestgear that isnt a robe and legpiece that looks like skinny jeans on the toon, please post it here.

ps. if you know of shouldergear that doesnt look like it belongs to WWF's legion of doom, something small, almost non-existent, please share as well.
ok. googled a little and found www.worldofwardrobes.net is a great place to DIY random pieces of gear

low level fun?

so, what spec do you guys find the most fun at these levels?
I would also like to know this : ),
Probably Frost. It just gets a lot of great utility earlier than both of the other specs.
At my lvl I like arcane for the instant AB on a 4 sec cd helps alot. I was fire at the start but find the extra instant cast spell helps out. But as you lvl up I'd say frost
I've rather liked frost so far. This is my main as I'm just coming back after a 2 year hiatus and decided to reroll so I wouldn't be the noob that doesn't know his class.

I like frostbolt. Pew Pew Pew you're dead before you touch me. I open with the pet's AOE Frost spell that freezes them so I can get the +crit multiplier. Then spam frostbolt. At this level I don't run out of mana.

I have 0 BOA's.

Edit: wrong you're :/

Edit #2: Just realized we're all humans. waka waka.
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Not sure what you mean here but I said frost to lvl up. I'm not going any higher and arcane seems to hit hard. I like having the instant AB on a 4 sec cd. I can open with Fireball, Ab, and fireblast and take 500-700 hp off someone real quick and the short cd on AB give me one more If i need it. My fireball is a 1.2 sec cast and frostbolt is 1 sec cast time
if you're talking pvp, i pretty much got owned as all specs, until level 69


for pve/dungeons, fire is fun as hell
If you have a lot of heirlooms, going arcane and one shotting even other BoA players at around the first few brackets is incredibely sick and twisted but hilarious at the same time. Although even mediocre rogues will demolish you until you get more resilience and then only good ones will be able to actually put up a fight. Frost is a lot of fun once you get deep freeze.
twinking a mage you want to be arcane. you destroy people with abar
Yeah at low lvs arcane for sure. Especially if you like your name at the top of the recount.
I really enjoyed leveling in fire, kiting mobs while scorching is too much fun.
fire :D
Having leveled a mage to 74 so far... I started off as an Arcane, moved to Fire and after spending a brief time away from playing my mage Went back ast Arcane...

and I have to say... if you have full BoA's and like seeing your name at the top of the recount list for damage... Arcane is the way to go...
Now, you may get beaten in Trash mob DPS or AoE.. but on Single target boss fights... you dominate the damage boards...

Just an example: I was in Utgard Keep and with a combination of Arcane Power, Mirror Images, Mana Gem, Blood Lust and Arcane Blast I hit 4.8k DPS on a boss, the next highest DPS wass a warrior who did 1.2k DPS...

Its really good fun...
just be sure not to pull aggro...
you'll die super fast if you do.

Arcane Mage DPS Help

Anything I should with my gear for better DPS?

Thanks in advance.
those are some strange gems you have.

prismatic: brilliant inferno ruby
blue: veiled demonseye
yellow: artful ember topaz

but your chest, just put 2 brilliant inferno ruby. reason is mathematical.

enchant power torrent on your weapon

reforge.
hit to 1742
haste to 1768
after that, everything else mastery.
crit is what you reforge out of first.
you can use programs like rawr to optimise for you.
Replace the Bottled Wishes with simply anything else. It is only useful for Heroic Spine. Any other trinket from FL or DS would be better for you.

Use the Glyph of Arcane Power.

Regem so that you are only using Brilliant red (int), artful orange (int/mastery), and veiled purple (int/hit) gems. Get rid of the jagged green, nightmare tear, and the level 80 gems. The potent orange is okay... but artful is better.

Reforge to adjust your hit to 17%... anything over that is wasted.

Reforge out of haste and into mastery (or crit). You want aim to get your haste rating down to 1768 (1268 once you get t13). This haste value is the amount of haste that will put your AB cast down to 1 second during hero/timewarp in a raid.

Enchant your weapon with power torrent.

How is this possible?

I've been playing fire all patch and have been doing fairly decently, but I thought I'd switch over to arcane just to check out my deeps. I reforged everything for mastery but didn't bother to re-gem anything, just seeing as how I wanted to get an idea of how much dps I could pull as arcane.

On my burn phase (against raid dummy) I could only muster out 28k dps? (Without timewarp)
How is that possible? Does that sound accurate to you guys? I thought I was pulling that much dps before DS came out. Could someone please look over my reforges and tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Try changing your glyphs

Staff or main with off?

I am about to hit 85, and I was wondering what is the best? I am still new to the whole mage thing. any information or a thread that already exists would be great :D
Add up the stats.

Normally MH/OH will pull ahead due to the +40 int offhand enchant. Make sure to always add +40 int to the MH/OH calculation when comparing the two.

Fireblast and Impact = Broken

Impact: Gives your damaging spells a 5/10% chance to reset the cooldown on Fire Blast and to cause the next Fire Blast you cast to stun the target for 2 sec and spread any Fire damage over time effects to nearby enemy targets within 12 yards.

This is severely broken. I honestly wanted to try Fire PvE but this only worked about 20% of the time in my first dungeon. Anyone else have this issue?

Edit: Changed the title to make the subject a little more clear.
You have to be in combat with the targets you're spreading the DoTs, so just Blastwave them.

And also, from the most recent patch notes they said that it was bugged.

Bug Fixes
Living Bomb’s interaction with Impact has been cleaned up, and should no longer sometimes fail to spread Living Bomb to new targets. We hope.
I havn't really ran into an issue. I actually think it is quite sexy when I have LB, Pyro, Combustion and Ignight, then hit that impact proc.

MmMmMmm..

To answer your question, I have not had(or noticed) an issue.
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I think it depends upon the zone somehow.

FL I had issues all the time. (haven't checked since patch)
Normal cata heroics are guaranteed to have a few bad impacts.
Trolls are a little better then normals.
HoT heroics haven't had a noticeable one yet.
DS I haven't had a single bad impact.

It is such a weird bug.
I am still having this problem too. I have noticed that in fights and from raids. I can spam flame strike to my hearts content, or do blast wave on cool down, and more often than not, my impact either never pops, or it does pop, but fails to spread living bomb to other targets opposed to the one that I am striking down.
I wish they'd just let Fireblast auto-spread dots. It's not like you cast it in PvE unless that's your intention. Leave the stun/cd-reset as a proc.

Arcane PvE trinket choice?

hey I'm completely torn when it comes down to deciding between these 3 trinkets to use.

I currently have the foul gift of the demon lord trinket,
RF Will of the unbinding
RF Insignia of the corrupted Mind

Which 2 would be better for PvE arcane mages? thanks.
us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3711312802#3

Not that hard to find with the new search feature on the forums...
Sorry didn't know :x
I believe that thread was referring to Fire Spec only.

Still haven't seen an Arcane trink list.
bottom to top

DMC:V
Moonwell
Mirror (heroic)
SoW
VPLC


pre 4.3 trinkets for arcane mages

Is it just me or is the mana reducer trinket off Sinestra still BiS for arcane with a close second of VPLC?
www.askmrrobot.com

Focus macros

What is the focus counterspell and polly macros. im bad without em so i thought id get them
Didn't I link you the guide like a few days ago? O.o

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3789699751

UI section under "macros" have all the focus macros you need.
omfg yes.. srry xiun.. u can b my guardian for all things magey.. like i said im lazy and dont look things up :D and thxxxxx we should get to together 1 day and u can show me how to play a mage since i blow :P
#showtooltip [@focus]Polymorph
/clearfocus [@focus,dead][@focus,noexists][mod:shift][@focus,noharm]
/focus [@focus,noexists]
/cast [@focus]Polymorph(Pig)

80-85

so what do you think i should use to level from 80-85? i cant decide between fire or frost
Arcane. In 5 mans people shouldn't come close to touching you in terms of damage.

but if you want more fun, I say fire. Spreading your dots around in instances is a lot of fun.
If you plan to play a lot of PvP, frost, if you plan to do serious raiding, fire.

But ultimately, just play whatever you like best. Your spec choice isn't really that important until you are raiding.
Arcane is ridiculous at 80 but drops off in effectiveness sharply after 81.

I would say frost for questing or get used to fire for dungeons.
Arcane is ridiculous at 80 but drops off in effectiveness sharply after 81.

I would say frost for questing or get used to fire for dungeons.
I quested 80-85 as arcane, and my damage output fine. You just need a few upgrades from either AH or Quests for all classes/specs before Cata is no longer "hard".

Although I did enter cata at an iLevel between 232 and 245 and not 180s
Questing is pretty easy from 80-85 as frost.
All three are fine. Just pick one you like.
Until 80 I was always frost, and I do still like the control of frost, but then I switched to arcane (as my other spec) and found that with the talent for auto-applied Slow I can almost always kill stuff before it gets to me anyway. I also liked the higher DPS of arcane, and much of my XP from around 82 until 85 was running instances.
arcane until 83, then your mana pool disappears

am I doing it right?

when running a 5-man, I find myself just spamming fireball and pyroblast! on hot streak procs.

I'm finding my dps is pretty low compared to physical dps classes, though.

am I doing something wrong, or is this just a matter of melee classes scaling exponentially with heirloom weapons?
DPS doesn't matter until you're level 85.

As long as you're not getting kicked just sit back and enjoy.
I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING. I ALWAYS SEEM TO BE FOURTH IN DAMAGE. ATLEAST I KNOW IM NOT ALONE
Go arcane = WIN
1: Switch to Arcane.
2: Put Arcane Blast on keys 1-0.
3: Apply face to keyboard.
4: Repeat step 3.

If you realise how boring it is before the aneurism gets you, switch to Frost like I did. Also:

DPS doesn't matter until you're level 85.

As long as you're not getting kicked just sit back and enjoy.