Losing spot in raid please help!

Ok guys here's a brief story I've been raiding consistently with my current guild and was playing catch up on gear all through FL, but now with DS being live I've closed the gap pretty well as far as gear but my dmg isn't increasing enough.

I am being sat for madness encounter (10man) until I can improve my damage. I'm here asking for some help from the fire mages who know more than me to be criticized and given advice.

My gear: you can see it via armory I am gemmed and reforged based on what I believe is correct, int>hit cap>haste(2005+)>crit>mastery

My last weeks attempts hovered at about 34k-38k dps and I was always last in dps next closest is 40k+ consistently and my overall dmg was about 2-3% behind.

We always get to final phase but my dps is holding us back as we 2 heal all of DS we are not getting it done fast enough, by swapping me with a 393 fury war they downed it in 2-3 attempts.

Rotation: keep LB up all times, flame orb on cd, combustion based on combustion helper and optimal debuffs(spreading with impact when necessary) fireball>pyro on HS proc.

AOE: blast wave>DB>Lb(x3)>flame strike>spread any dots via impact

I am asking for any and all help I do not have access to our world of logs but the guild is in my armory if you want to search our logs.

Thank you in advance for any help or pointers
Did you have your 4xt12? If so, you may need to put it back on for now. The 4xT12 is really good for fire mages. I would also suggest downloading Rawr and having it do your reforge. Your crit is still a little low for a fire mage too. You want to be mid-20's self buffed.

You are currently over the hit cap, missing a shoulder enchant and have a mastery gem in your head piece.

EDIT: I did your character in rawr and you need to go back to the 2xT12 (via the shoulders if you have them) and reforge things a bit. I see a 300-400 DPS increase from using the Firehawk shoulders and a reforge.
No I have 3 piece t13 and the 3rd piece is shoulders which the non tier is better stats until I get 4pc. I had the gem for arc I need to switch to an int/crit thank you for spotting that, also I'm working on shoulder enchant as I stated playing catch up on gear.

Anything else you can see or suggest I may be doing wrong?

The other Mage in our group has only around 600 more sp but pulls 4-6% more damage and around 45k-55k depending on HS procs


I do not have 2t12 unfortunately as I said I played catch up through fl and all my raid time is taken up by guild so no time to pug a FL run to get the token for t12

I unfortunately have been unlucky in lfr when I have time getting 4pc bonus

No I have 3 piece t13 and the 3rd piece is shoulders which the non tier is better stats until I get 4pc. I had the gem for arc I need to switch to an int/crit thank you for spotting that, also I'm working on shoulder enchant as I stated playing catch up on gear.

Anything else you can see or suggest I may be doing wrong?

The other Mage in our group has only around 600 more sp but pulls 4-6% more damage and around 45k-55k depending on HS procs

Firehawk Shoulders w/2xT12 bonus is better than firehawk robes and T13 non-tier shoulders was the point I was trying to make but I typed the wrong number.

Download Rawr and input all of the gear you have into it and let it go. There is some thing you are probably not doing right if you are only doing 34-35k on Madness. I am just not sure what.

I was doing 40k+ in my Fire gear and it was not as good as your current gear.
I understood ya np there I just don't have access to 2t12 unfortunately, could you maybe breakdown what you do on madness maybe I'm missing a damage opportunity.

I LB the wing and tentacle in back, flame orb on cd towards the wing, combustion when wing is about 10mil health for max dps via combustion.

Also dps the bolt as well as aoe the hemmorage adds.

Anything I'm missing?
Are you timing your combustion to your trinket proc? If you look at your trinket when it procs and add in stolen time you are miles above what any recommended haste cap.

You should be getting the proc at the start of any pull. Time your combustion 10 to 15 secs after the proc. This allows you time to build stacks of stolen time and roll up crit. If you are 15 secs into the proc and don't have a pyro dot, hard cast it. You are ignoring a major dps increase by not watching that trinket.

On your following combustions you will always be at a full 10 stacks, so it is just a matter of waiting for the trinket to proc. It does have a 45 sec internal cd, but even if you have to wait a full 45 secs on following combustions, it is worth waiting.

The 2 piece you have and the trinket you have allow you to stack much more crit. Stacking crit allows you to keep ignite up and rolling. It will also allow you to burn adds much faster because of a higher chance to crit and spread.

I do not believe the gear optimizer is looking at timing combustion with the trinket proc. The reason we are shooting for 2005 is the extra tic of combustion, but the trinket provides this on proc. As long as you land combustion while the trinket is active, the full duration of the dot will take advantage of the haste.

The other thing to consider is that any time the trinket procs, you should have a pyro dot ticing. If you do not get a proc when the dot falls off, hard cast one. When blood lust is active, if your trinket procs, you should strait nuke with pyroblast. You will be GCD locked with fireball and very close to GCD locked on pyroblast under those circumstance.

The optimizer can not adjust for things like the T12 procing during a dead faze or just shooting the wrong thing. The T13 set bonus allows you to react, and change what you are doing to take advantage of the stacks of stolen time in conjunction with your trinket.

A 300 to 400 dps increase on the final faze of death wing is nothing. Are you standing in the swirls that boost casting speed on death wing? Are you nuking with pyroblast when you are in those swirls? Are you fishing out an impact if one isn't up to spread ignites on the adds? Taking full advantage of the mechanics on that fight should bring your dps up a lot. Under 40k on that fight with all the advantages the fight provides you sounds like you are missing something in your play style to produce the maximum possible from that fight. That fight was made for you to post huge numbers.

I was not timing combustion with trink proc that is a huge oversight thank you. Is there a good add on to alert me of the proc?

Also yes I do stand in the yellow swirls, are you suggesting when trink procs and I have a 10stack from 2pc I should hard cast pyro instead of fireball?

Also what level of haste should I sacrifice to crit?

Thank you for the info it is very helpful
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The problem is the other Mage is casting fireball as 70% of his dmg not abusing mechanics and doubling me up in dps almost and almost 3mil more damage
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I dont have access to our logs but there posted its my armory guild dunno if you can find it by that or not.
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My mage takes on a green glow and a count down timer apears on me when my trinket procs. I am using power auras. I have effects set up for all my procs so I don't have to watch the corner of the screen. Power torrent and the battle one are much harder to take advantage of because I haven't seen the boost that I get out of timing to that trinket.

Even with hard casting pyroblasts, fireball is still most of my casts. I hard cast pyro when the dot is not present and my trinket has proc'd. When my trinket procs and I'm in those swirls, I strait cast pyroblast for my nuke because I am GCD locked for fireball. In otherwords, for that 20 secs the spell cooldown is slower than the cast time. You should have no problem rolling huge crits into combustion at that point. That is not abusing a mechanic. That is using it properly. Look at the parses from other fire magi on world of logs. ALL of the show a high number of hard cast pyro's on that fight.

I have only run Death Wing in LFR so far. I did have some mana issues the first time I did the fight because I was putting out so many pyroblasts and fireballs on top of using flamestrike to fish for impact. I had to bind my armors to keys (which I already had done for pvp in that spec) so I could switch to mage armor quickly when I turned to down adds and when moving between platforms.

I never waste time with an evoke during a fight. I do use my mana gems. Using evoke with a fire mage makes your DPS LOOK like it took a bigger hit than an arcane mage did. The reason for this is an arcane mage doesn't leave a dot. Recount looks at the time an arcane mage is evoking as 0. Since you can't divide by 0, it is treated as out of combat. Your damage done suffers though. Take an arcane mage and a fire mage doing the same dps on a long pull and you will see the fire mage did much more damage. If you have dots rolling on something, you need to be going all out on it. You are better off switching to mage armor 1/4 mana and popping a gem then eating an evoke. Between combustions when adds are out, get in mage armor so fishing for impacts doesn't hurt your mana. Get back into molten as soon as possible. Make sure your back in molten before combustion comes off cooldown. Ignite should be your number 2 or 3 source of damage.
I was arcane for that logged attempt only to provide the 3% buff to raid my raid leader and I agree I need to stay fire now.

Are there mechanics you think I'm missing?
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Your DPS numbers say you are not taking advantage of something. 40k was easy for me to obtain in LFR. I have massive lag issues in LFR and will sometimes just freeze when adds are out and everyone is pounding away and during heavy AE fazes. Especially if I just spread an ignite/pyro dot to all the adds.

I do not have the lag issues in a 10 man or 25 man from my server. I look forward to seeing the numbers I post when I am not missing chances to spread extra damage to adds or miss a living bomb because the screen froze for 10 secs when the thing was about to explode.
I pull 55k+ in lfr it seems to be in 10m I fall into the 34-38k range. I know the lfr bosses have lower resistance so I'm aware my dps will inflate in there.

Is there a mechanic I'm missing?
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I am standing in the swirl so I know I've got that down I'm multidotting and staying in range for that blast thing on my spell casts.

I think a huge issue was timing of my combustion with proc on trink so I will get power auras to track that, I play on a 60in tv so hard to see those procs sometimes.

I will also reforge for more crit given my trink and 2pc putting me over the combustion haste point.

I'm also talking about 10m normal here I have zero problem in lfr and pull 55k easily and have never not been #1 dps on any boss, but lfr bosses have less resistance so the damage is inflated.

Anything else I'm missing?