2012年4月14日星期六

Arcane Mage Raiding Question

[:1]Hi, I have 2 quick arcane mage gearish questions.
1) I recently got Isgina of corrupted mind. I'm at the haste soft cap so with TW my AB is 1 sec(4stacks). However if this trinkit happens to proc durring TW which is very likely. Then I'm having a ton of wasted haste. and I'm going to be getting my teir 13 2p soon. With all this haste. Does this devalue haste rating? Should I be reforging haste to hit and mastery etc instead of crit so I'm not global capped. and if anything changes there. Thx
2) Also. I know I'm not to close yet. But when I get my teir 13 4p. Reduced AP time. What is the whole plan on using this? Mini burn phases? Could someone tell me how to use this. If it's really that short of a CD I might not be able to have 10 stacks each time.

Thanks in advance.
1) Yes, with that much haste it's value goes down significantly. Get hit capped then go straight mastery with that much haste. If you can't reforge for mastery or hit, go for crit as long as you'll continue to hit soft haste cap.

2) You alternate. Burn Phase > Conserve Phase > Burn > Conserve. You'll always get 10 stacks, trust me. Basically, go through normal burn for one, and during the next you go about it as if you were doing your normal, non-burn rotation.
The trinket is sadly not very ideal for arcane at DS gear levels. What other trinkets do you have/have potential access to? With my gear reforged for arcane the LFR cunning of the cruel actually comes out ahead of the normal insignia due to the wasted haste. The int on the trinket is however still very nice for arcane, but any version of cunning or the VPLC, or even shard of woe comes out ahead as you are able to make full use of both the static int and the proc.

I'd have to do a little more testing but I'm not actually sure it's possible to dump enough haste from current gear to make much use of the proc for arcane.

As for 4 piece, the general consensus seems to be use it on cd as a sort of micro burn until evo is off cd (you should be able to get two AP's per cycle instead of the usual 1). Flame orb will always be off cd for AP, so pop it afterwards and use the missile procs to regen your mana in prep for your next burn/mini burn. Due to the fact that stolen time is a 100% chance on AB hit you should always have the full 10 stacks when AP comes off cd unless there is some fight mechanic that interferes with your ability to cast for a prolonged period of time. The only time you likely dont want to use AP on cd is on spine, since tendon dps is the only time dps really matters anyways.

Edit: Basically what Rowle said, since I'm slow at hitting post.
In regards to the insignia... I wouldn't worry too much about it proc'ing during TW. I believe it has a fairly long internal cooldown of 2 minutes. So the chances of it lining up with when you want to TW isn't that bad.

As for the T13 set bonus devaluing haste... Yes. It essentially shaves off 500 haste rating from what you need to reach the haste cap. You can definitely reforge more into mastery or crit once you get the 2pc.

Once you get the 4pc T13 set bonus it will lower the cooldown fairly reliably. You will usually be able to fit 2 APs into each conserve phase. I try to treat them as mini-burns, but it really depends on how my mana is doing at the time. Sometimes when you pop AP during a conserve, you will just want to continue with your normal conserve spell choices. I don't think you will have any problem's reaching 10 stacks prior to using AP each time.
Thanks!
I had Soul Casket and Will of unbinding(lfr)
I won the Isgnia yesterday. It was #3 on BiS list. I assume it may be #2 if single target always like Ultraxtion. (#1 being Will of course).
I can spam run Well of Eternity and get Foul Gift. But I'd assume this is better.
So Since I'm goblin and with the two peice. It'll almost be hard not to have the haste soft cap lol.
I just ran your toon through rawr since I noticed your armory updated to your pve gear. With your current setup your trinkets are about where they should be. If you can pick up an lfr cunning of the cruel it would be roughly a 200 dps increase (normal is 500 or so). The cunning's proc scales with spell power (I believe it's 80'ish% for the lfr, 95% or so for the normal and 103% for the heroic) so as the rest of your gear improves cunning will becoming more and more valuable. The insignia's relative position will all depend on how your haste changes as your gear improves. The nice thing is, unlike FL, we actually have trinket choices this tier, and unlike FL the "next best" isn't some painfully low alternative, they're all decent regardless of the circumstances.
Yeah. I am constlaly using Rawr and SimC. To make sure I'm 100% optimal for my guild's raids.
Although on the Rare chance that cunning drops in my 10m group. We have other casters who might not have decent trinkits like I do (390/397).
So I need to be prep'd for now.
er... not sure if u know about this

if u know that your gonna use bloodlust at the start of the fight.. unequip and equip the insignia to trigger the 1min internal gcd for it.. all on proc trinkets have this 1min equip icd before it can be used..

its different from the normal icd that happens when it procs which this trinket has i think 105sec?

so it will be up when bloodlust ends.. then u wont overlap with it..


unless it was changed in 4.3 because i used to do this for alysrazor with the heroic theralion's mirror(mastery proc) so it will be up when she drops down for the crazy ignite dot boost
Ok thanks a ton.
It's Iternal Cooldown is 120. (2minutes).
But ok that makes sense. My guild only lusts early on ultraxtion and like Madness.
That is a good tip. Didn't know that.

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